Baseball GOATstarting pitcher
Lefty Grove
Philadelphia Athletics, 1925–1941
84.0
Score, No. 20 all-time
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Grove had the higher peak, 63.6 wins added to 53.6 across his seven best seasons. Collins built more over a full career, 112.1 to 104.4.
starting pitcher
Philadelphia Athletics, 1925–1941
84.0
Score, No. 20 all-time
second base
Philadelphia Athletics, 1906–1930
82.8
Score, No. 22 all-time
Wins added is how many extra games a player’s teams won because they had him and not a replacement-level player, the kind of fill-in any team can find. In one season, 2 is a solid regular, 5 is an All-Star and 8 or more is an MVP-level year. Score is the average of the career total and the best seven seasons.
| Lefty Grove | Eddie Collins | |
|---|---|---|
| Ratings | ||
| 84.0(better) | Score | 82.8 |
| 104.4 | Wins added, career | 112.1(better) |
| 63.6(better) | Wins added, best 7 seasons | 53.6 |
| 20(better) | All-time rank | 22 |
| 17 | Seasons | 25 |
The dot marks the better number in each row. A hitter and a pitcher don’t share traditional stats, so this comparison uses the ratings only.